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1. What do you mean 'the bottom line'? , bwana 7/01/03 18:41
   Obviously, there is explicitly shown idea of EAC being the one and only software to rip CDAudio. By the way, I wonder why you doubt in official mpc release? Is it paid? Is it low quality? Are you afraid mpc will monopolize digital media consumer market?

   "you don't need your smile when I cut
   your throat"

   1. no więc: , Seadog 7/01/03 18:59
      1. the bottom line = conclusion
      2. Obviously the fact that EAC is the one and only software to rip CD-Audio is pretty clear <- brzmi dużo lepiej, achyba wyraża to, co chciałas powiedzieć.
      3. I have no doubt in the official mpc release save for one: they announcet back in August that a new version was coming "soon" and it's January 2003 already... My concern is also caused by the fact that there doesn't seem to be much support for .mpc for other media players, like the WMP and other uses - like CD-Audio burning.
      4. No, I'm not afraid of a monopoly here.
      5. Ogólnie - cztery plus. Za brak przedimka przy "idea" i nieangielska składnię pierwszego zdania. :)

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      1. aaa , Seadog 7/01/03 19:39
         1. "announced" - mea culpa
         2. ViS - trzy z minusem! :) "I'd rather use" albo "I prefer", ale nie razem; poza tym "till"
         podobnie jak "when", "if" i parę innych rzeczy nie lubi "will" -> "till you are/get smart enough"

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         1. you see.. , ViS 7/01/03 20:42
            i always make such mistakes :( conditional sentences are the ones i like the least :)
            thx :)
            
            btw: tak to jest... nie praktykuje i sie opuszczam :( polecisz jakies good angielskie books available przez net moze? bylbym bardzo thankful!

            I will not buy this record - it is
            scratched.

            1. angielskich czy do angielskiego? , Seadog 7/01/03 21:06
               bo po angielsku literatury trochę mam (zwłaszcza SF) a do angielskiego... musiałbym poszperać po bookmarkach...

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               1. angielskich , ViS 7/01/03 21:27
                  ale cos latwiejszego od tolkiena :)
                  
                  btw nie wiem moze przeoczyles moje pytanie kiedys wiec zapytam jeszcze raz: wiesz cos o honorowaniu przez uczelnie certyfikatow? (... kto mi go dal hehe :))

                  I will not buy this record - it is
                  scratched.

                  1. dodam jeszcze , ViS 7/01/03 21:28
                     ze wybieram sie (hehe) na filologie angielska, wiec moze jakas klasyke brytyjska albo amerykanska?

                     I will not buy this record - it is
                     scratched.

      2. no wiec , bwana 7/01/03 22:36
         'conclusion' meaning of 'the bottom line' is, let's say, a bit old-styled. In a nutshell, it means something we call "podtekst" in modern english.
         The sentence you proposed to replace mine one is fine, but just doesn't fit the idea which was to emphasise the fact everything about EAC was exactly written in this forum (archive). Now you get it?
         Of the mpc and its availability : one can use it with XMMMS, Winamp2/3 and recent Foobar2000 what should make bring you to conclusion that mpc coded media fiels are handled in two most popular software environments which are both Windows and Linux.
         Of the mpc updates : there were several minor ones. I consider the fact there is no need to update so there's still no major update. I think you were led astray by MS marketing policies, but I forgive you;)
         And last but not least - who the hell says my opinion was to sound 'english'?
         
         Dobra, dla mnie wystarczy :-)

         "you don't need your smile when I cut
         your throat"

         1. no więc: , Seadog 7/01/03 23:07
            1. untrue. "the bottom line" is alive and kicking and does not mean anything like "podtekst" (=implied meaning, undertone etc.)
            2. propose: usually in writing or formally; it's better to use "suggest" in contexts like this one.
            3. "mine" only without nouns; "It's my car" but "It's mine"
            4. "the fact _that_" - you can't skip the word "that" here
            5. AFAIR in past discussions we did not reach a consensus - most people were for EAC, but there were a handful who remained adamantly in favour of CDEx
            6. "the recent Foobar" or " , recently, Foobar"
            7. "I consider..." -> "I think the fact that there is no update is because there is no need to update"
            8. I can't seem to follow the last sentence... did you mean "intention" instead of "opinion"?
            9. ale i tak nie ma wsparcia dla .mpc w WMP czy Creative Center... ale to mięta z bóbrem, ważniejsze, że nie ma wsparcia dla .mpc w Nero!

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            1. acha... , Seadog 7/01/03 23:09
               a wszystko to z powodu powrotu do pracy po świętach - nie mogę dojść do siebie, wpaść w rytm roboczy. w pracy czuję sie nie w sosie, a w domu-> patrz moje posty ;-\

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            2. a zatem , bwana 8/01/03 00:07
               1. If you say so... I might have been wrong with it:)
               2. The Board has nothing to do with official publications then any informal forms are OK I think.
               3. Yep, you're kinda right. My fault.
               4. I can. I am allowed. It is proper. Really-really.
               5. Do you take CDex's fans opinion seriously???? kiddin';-)
               6. Yes, recent. I do not say it is recently released (what is true, oc) nor it is the only recent thing but just inform it is recent software. Like 'recent docs' in your Windows, for instance. BTW there is no need to place 'that' between 'inform' and 'it is recent...'.
               7. 'I consider' - yes, why not? 'I take it as', 'I think of it as of' or 'I imagine it like it was...' - where is the problem?
               8. Opinion. I posted my opinion to The Board. A note. Memo. Answer. Reply.
               9. That's the fact, Jack. But how many cares?;)
               10 for your 'acha'. Steam off. Take it slowly. Szok pourlopowy;)
               11 for my PS. The conversation becomes too private and totally off-topic so I suggest to cut it or move to e-mail.

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               your throat"

               1. no juz kończymy, juz :) , Seadog 8/01/03 01:01
                  ale jestem pewien, że inni uzytkownicy boarda wiele skorzystaja na naszej wymianie :)))
                  
                  my last installment (and then I'm done. really. honest indian):
                  re: 2. what I meant was that when you propose something you do it in writing, or officially at a meeting (of a board of directors and suchlike)
                  re: 4. no ma'am. uh-uh. nope. :)
                  re: 6. what i meant was that you need a "the" before "recent". however, if you use the adverb, you don't.
                  re: 7. the syntax of "consider" is [consider+NP+AP] or [consider+NP+as+AP]; when "consider" is used to mean "think long/deeply of; ponder" - you can use just a nominal phrase (as in "She considered my proposal and then turned it down"). your sentence does not abide by any of those rules...
                  re: 8. my fault. you're right - i proved to be too dumb to understand. it often turns out that way with me and women... ;-\
                  
                  over and out :)

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            3. ale jest w EAC , Master/Pentium 8/01/03 00:13
               jestem w posiadaniu przerobionego dekodera :)

               Nie ma tego złego , co by się w gorsze
               obrócić nie mogło - jak nie wierzysz
               włącz komputer :-)

2. i'd rather... , ViS 7/01/03 19:32
   prefer audiocatalyst
   however it's not free... (till you will be smart enough :))

   I will not buy this record - it is
   scratched.

   1. fajny programik :( , Master/Pentium 7/01/03 19:52
      ale ma żenującą jakosć dźwięku.

      Nie ma tego złego , co by się w gorsze
      obrócić nie mogło - jak nie wierzysz
      włącz komputer :-)

Nie ma tego złego , co by się w gorsze
obrócić nie mogło - jak nie wierzysz
włącz komputer :-)

Gdyby nie wymyślono elektryczności,
siedziałbym przed komputerem przy
świeczkach.

1. tylko trzeba podmienic gogo.dll , Master/Pentium 8/01/03 09:25
   na ten z wersji 3.11. Wersja 2.39 ma nieco gorszą jakość. Najbardziej wnerwia mnie brak wyboru jakość (wersja konsolowa ma przełącznik -q) i brak trybu ABR (w wersji konsolowej -a).

   Nie ma tego złego , co by się w gorsze
   obrócić nie mogło - jak nie wierzysz
   włącz komputer :-)

   1. a masz dll z wersji 3.11? , NimnuL-Redakcja 8/01/03 10:32
      bo ja nie mam ;( mozesz podeslac ?
      dzieki

      Gdyby nie wymyślono elektryczności,
      siedziałbym przed komputerem przy
      świeczkach.

      1. poszło , Master/Pentium 8/01/03 11:36
         :-)

         Nie ma tego złego , co by się w gorsze
         obrócić nie mogło - jak nie wierzysz
         włącz komputer :-)

         1. dzieki , NimnuL-Redakcja 8/01/03 11:50
            wielkie.
            odbieram ;)

            Gdyby nie wymyślono elektryczności,
            siedziałbym przed komputerem przy
            świeczkach.