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1. oczywiście , Chrisu 27/08/15 10:43
   pół z niego ;)

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Gdyby nie wymyślono elektryczności,
siedziałbym przed komputerem przy
świeczkach.

"Nie ma takich bredni, w które ludzie nie byliby
w stanie uwierzyć." S. Lem

1. amerykance zawsze cos popieprza... , Kosiarz 27/08/15 23:50
   Pamietam ze tez kiedys mialem z tym problem bo mi sie na logike wartosci nie zgadzaly no i sie okazalo ze oczywiscie tamci sobie poprawili skale... Ech ta ich mania wielkosci

   Ale urwal...

   1. Czy wiesz o czym mowisz? , speed 28/08/15 05:28
      [This isn't quite clear, but "billion" meant 10^9 in France at least
      by the early 18th century.]
      
      As to the American usage, taking a billion to mean a thousand
      million and running the subsequent names by thousands, it
      should be said that this is due in part to French influence
      after the Revolutionary War, although our earliest native
      American arithmetic, the Greenwood book of 1729, gave the
      billion as 10^9, the trillion as 10^12, and so on. Names
      for large numbers were the fashion in early days, Pike's
      well-known arithmetic (1788), for example, proceeding to
      duodecillions before taking up addition.
      
      Further, from the OED,
      
      The name [billion] appears not to have been adopted in Eng.
      before the end of the 17th c. .... Subsequently the application
      of the word was changed by French arithmeticians, figures
      being divided in numeration into groups of threes, instead of
      sixes, so that F. billion, trillion, denoted not the second
      and third powers of a million, but a thousand millions and a
      thousand thousand millions. In the 19th century, the U.S.
      adopted the French convention, but Britain retained the
      original and etymological use (to which France reverted in 1948).
      Since 1951 the U.S. value, a thousand millions, has been
      increasingly used in Britain, especially in technical writing
      and, more recently, in journalism; but the older sense "a
      million millions" is still common.
      
      Putting this together, we see that the "American" use of "billion"
      originated not here but in France; and that it was probably based not
      on stupidity, but on practicality (another well-known characteristic
      of Americans), as there was more need for a name for 10^9 than for
      10^12. There _is_ logic behind the usage; in this system, billion
      doesn't mean "million squared" but "second -illion" counting by
      thousands. It's hardly different from deciding whether to index
      arrays starting at 0 or 1. You just have to choose where to start and
      how big a step to take, and the numbers follow a logical progression.
      
      I fully agree that the original British usage is nicer and easier to
      explain, and I wish it were the standard system; but the other is not
      really arbitrary. It should also be noted that France, not Britain,
      was the center of mathematical scholarship at the time "billion" was
      imported into America, so it can be reasonably suggested that the
      Americans adopted it for the same reason the British have more
      recently: it was used by the most important writers.
      
      -Doctor Peterson
      http://mathforum.org/dr.math/
      
      Zaczym zaczniesz szczekac to warto przed tym poczytac.
      Nawet w tak blachej sprawie wychodzi jakimi jestescie bufonami Europy.
      1. sory jestem bufionem , okobar 28/08/15 07:48
         po polsku proszę :P

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      2. przyganiał kocioł garnkowi :-))) , Twardy 28/08/15 10:18
         Piękny cytat po angielsku, a potem dwa zdania po polsku. W każdym 1 błąd ortograficzny, a w pierwszym 1 logiczny. Za czym piszemy osobno, błahej od (błahy, błahostka) piszemy przez samo "h".
         Zanim zaczniesz pisać po polsku sprawdź w słowniku http://sjp.pwn.pl
         :-)